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PostPosted: April 1, 2004 2:09 AM 

Importance: Medium

GG jokes again about the Google Email service. Is it an April Fools Joke, or not?

GoogleGuy Says: [Link to quote]

Man, I can't wait to read about Gmail in all the newspapers on April Fool's Day. :)


dildatron

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PostPosted: April 1, 2004 1:16 PM 

If one thinks logically about this, you can see it is either false, or at least partly false. Working as a storage engineer, I qualified to point out that simply the amount of storage required would be extremely hard to manage, and very expensive. Large storage arrays nowadays made by Hitachi Data Systems, EMC, etc. usually pack 100-200 Terabytes a piece per array.

Now, say Gmail has 40 million users:
40,000,000 x 1 gigabytes = 40,000,000 gigabytes.
40 Million gigabytes is 40,000 Terabytes. If they purchased only high-end arrays at say 120 Terabytes per array (with 1024 physical disk drives), Google would need 333 high-end arrays. These arrays costs millions a piece, and this is not including the fibre channel switches, and other SAN hardware which is also quite expensive. This could easily be a $500 million project.

So, just looking at the numbers and working in large storage networks, I can absolutely say this this is not true, that it would not be possible to provide this amount of storage, certianly not for free. If it were true, Google would probably have the largest storage area network in the world.

dildatron

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PostPosted: April 1, 2004 1:17 PM 

If one thinks logically about this, you can see it is either false, or at least partly false. Working as a storage engineer, I qualified to point out that simply the amount of storage required would be extremely hard to manage, and very expensive. Large storage arrays nowadays made by Hitachi Data Systems, EMC, etc. usually pack 100-200 Terabytes a piece per array.

Now, say Gmail has 40 million users:
40,000,000 x 1 gigabytes = 40,000,000 gigabytes.
40 Million gigabytes is 40,000 Terabytes. If they purchased only high-end arrays at say 120 Terabytes per array (with 1024 physical disk drives), Google would need 333 high-end arrays. These arrays costs millions a piece, and this is not including the fibre channel switches, and other SAN hardware which is also quite expensive. This could easily be a $500 million project.

So, just looking at the numbers and working in large storage networks, I can absolutely say this this is not true, that it would not be possible to provide this amount of storage, certianly not for free. If it were true, Google would probably have the largest storage area network in the world.

Mark Carey

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PostPosted: April 1, 2004 1:36 PM 

There is only one flaw in your math, dildatron. You assume that all 40 million users will use 100% of the 1GB. This is highly unlikely (and virtually impossible, as everyone's mailbox would be full and unable to receive mail). The question is what will the average storage space used be? My guess would be somewhere between 50 - 100 MB. If we assume the high end, that cuts the cost to $50 million (I agree, such high-end arrays are not cheap). Now suppose that Google can earn 10 cents per user (on average) per month via AdWords. With 40 million users, that's almost $50 million per year. I bet they can average more than 10 cents per user, so...

I would expect them to enforce some attachment related restrictions (max size, max number per message, etc.) What Google really wants is the text of you email, so they can read it and serve you targeted ads. :)

My concern is that widespread adoption of such a problem could dramitcally effect the supply-demand balance of the AdWords program. Advertisers have limited budgets - if the total ads served for their keywords goes up 10-fold, many will not be able to increase their ad budgets to that level. When supply goes up, prices go down. This could have an adverse affect of the AdSense program....

bobby_beltbuckle

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PostPosted: April 1, 2004 2:15 PM 

I agree that it would be very hard to use 1GB of space for email... but as I am sure you know, email storage is growing dramatically. it is becoming increasingly difficult for companies to keep up with the demand for email storage. So while we say it is plenty of space for now, I am thinking about 5 or 10 years in the future. Email keeps evolving into more and more space. Plain text -> HTML email increases message sizes dramatically, attachments, etc. also increase size. Who knows what's next for email? No one really, but we can agree that emails will get larger and more featureful as time goes on.

So I think we are in agreement, I am just saying if Google ever had to really host that much space, it would be a huge amount of dough in hardware alone, let alone the skilled staff it would take to run such an enourmous 40-petabyte SAN.

saied

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PostPosted: April 19, 2004 2:40 PM 

hello

David Williams

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PostPosted: September 1, 2004 1:56 PM 

I am working with a leading technology provider here in San Antonio, TX. If you are interested in Texas I would like to talk with you. Thanks and look forward to speaking with you soon. If you have a current resume to add that would be great.
Description:Storage Technician

The position is a mid-to-senior level position with the Backup/Storage Team. Installation and configuration of Legato Networker, including agent configuration

You will need to have experience with the following:

Coordinating with customers on scheduling of server backups in available time slots.
Advanced troubleshooting of backup and restore failures.
Perform data restoration within appropriate time frames.
Installation and configuration of EMC Navisphere and PowerPath client software for SAN connectivity.
Providing technical direction to Storage Technician I individuals
Requirements: At least one year of Legato Networker 6.x/7.x experience
Legato Certified Networker Administrator for Unix/Windows Required
At least two years Customer Service experience
At least two years Window/Linux/Solaris system administration experience. Professional experience with Microsoft SQL 2000, Oracle, and MySQL databases
LCNA, Legato, Brocade, or EMC certifications or MCP, RHCT, Linux+, A+ or equivalent certifications
basic conceptual fibre-channel/SAN knowledge
familiarity with QLogic and Emulex HBAs
Proven verbal and written communication skills
previous experience with brocade fibre-channel switches
previous experience with EMC CLARiiON storage

David Williams

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PostPosted: September 1, 2004 1:56 PM 

I am working with a leading technology provider here in San Antonio, TX. If you are interested in Texas I would like to talk with you. Thanks and look forward to speaking with you soon. If you have a current resume to add that would be great.
Description:Storage Technician

The position is a mid-to-senior level position with the Backup/Storage Team. Installation and configuration of Legato Networker, including agent configuration

You will need to have experience with the following:

Coordinating with customers on scheduling of server backups in available time slots.
Advanced troubleshooting of backup and restore failures.
Perform data restoration within appropriate time frames.
Installation and configuration of EMC Navisphere and PowerPath client software for SAN connectivity.
Providing technical direction to Storage Technician I individuals
Requirements: At least one year of Legato Networker 6.x/7.x experience
Legato Certified Networker Administrator for Unix/Windows Required
At least two years Customer Service experience
At least two years Window/Linux/Solaris system administration experience. Professional experience with Microsoft SQL 2000, Oracle, and MySQL databases
LCNA, Legato, Brocade, or EMC certifications or MCP, RHCT, Linux+, A+ or equivalent certifications
basic conceptual fibre-channel/SAN knowledge
familiarity with QLogic and Emulex HBAs
Proven verbal and written communication skills
previous experience with brocade fibre-channel switches
previous experience with EMC CLARiiON storage

David Williams

Posts: 4

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PostPosted: September 1, 2004 1:57 PM 

I am working with a leading technology provider here in San Antonio, TX. If you are interested in Texas I would like to talk with you. Thanks and look forward to speaking with you soon. If you have a current resume to add that would be great.
Description:Storage Technician

The position is a mid-to-senior level position with the Backup/Storage Team. Installation and configuration of Legato Networker, including agent configuration

You will need to have experience with the following:

Coordinating with customers on scheduling of server backups in available time slots.
Advanced troubleshooting of backup and restore failures.
Perform data restoration within appropriate time frames.
Installation and configuration of EMC Navisphere and PowerPath client software for SAN connectivity.
Providing technical direction to Storage Technician I individuals
Requirements: At least one year of Legato Networker 6.x/7.x experience
Legato Certified Networker Administrator for Unix/Windows Required
At least two years Customer Service experience
At least two years Window/Linux/Solaris system administration experience. Professional experience with Microsoft SQL 2000, Oracle, and MySQL databases
LCNA, Legato, Brocade, or EMC certifications or MCP, RHCT, Linux+, A+ or equivalent certifications
basic conceptual fibre-channel/SAN knowledge
familiarity with QLogic and Emulex HBAs
Proven verbal and written communication skills
previous experience with brocade fibre-channel switches
previous experience with EMC CLARiiON storage

David Williams

Posts: 4

Reply: 9



PostPosted: September 1, 2004 1:59 PM 

I am working with a leading technology provider here in San Antonio, TX. If you are interested in Texas I would like to talk with you. Thanks and look forward to speaking with you soon. If you have a current resume to add that would be great.
Description:Storage Technician

The position is a mid-to-senior level position with the Backup/Storage Team. Installation and configuration of Legato Networker, including agent configuration

You will need to have experience with the following:

Coordinating with customers on scheduling of server backups in available time slots.
Advanced troubleshooting of backup and restore failures.
Perform data restoration within appropriate time frames.
Installation and configuration of EMC Navisphere and PowerPath client software for SAN connectivity.
Providing technical direction to Storage Technician I individuals
Requirements: At least one year of Legato Networker 6.x/7.x experience
Legato Certified Networker Administrator for Unix/Windows Required
At least two years Customer Service experience
At least two years Window/Linux/Solaris system administration experience. Professional experience with Microsoft SQL 2000, Oracle, and MySQL databases
LCNA, Legato, Brocade, or EMC certifications or MCP, RHCT, Linux+, A+ or equivalent certifications
basic conceptual fibre-channel/SAN knowledge
familiarity with QLogic and Emulex HBAs
Proven verbal and written communication skills
previous experience with brocade fibre-channel switches
previous experience with EMC CLARiiON storage

mohammad

Posts: 1

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PostPosted: September 16, 2004 10:44 AM 

mobin; thanks you for your invite.

bill

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PostPosted: April 1, 2005 2:50 AM 

Growing Gmail is not the joke,

It's New Google Gulp Beta!

panda

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PostPosted: April 13, 2005 6:09 PM 

what is going on with gmail?? dose anyone have a clue?????

Peggy

Posts: 1

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PostPosted: April 21, 2005 10:13 AM 

I've been locked out of my account since Sunday - but only at home. I can't get anything more than an automated reply from the Gmail customer service folks. Anyone having a similar issue? I'm ready to kill.

Sunil

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PostPosted: August 7, 2005 3:09 AM 

For the past few days i am unable to acess my gmail account.

roxychic

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PostPosted: November 23, 2005 1:43 AM 

hey peggy, what replies have you received for your gmail problem? been having the same problem too. first my password suddenly changed and i can't log in. second is i cannot remember if it is the correct security question i entered and of course can't remember the answer as well. help.

Christian

Posts: 2

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PostPosted: November 23, 2005 4:34 PM 

:D hey, can u tell me where i can get google Gmail Gulp invitasion?

Christian

Posts: 2

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PostPosted: November 23, 2005 4:35 PM 

:D hey, can u tell me where i can get google Gmail Gulp invitasion?

stew

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PostPosted: December 8, 2005 8:07 AM 

hi,
i just innocently went over my email limit (i'm not a spammer, i'm a musician with a large mailing list of fans who have signed up on their own) and now i'm not allowed to send email because what i was doing resembled spamming. I have received the classic automated answer which doesnt address my problem directly. anyone have any idea what i can do?
thanks,
/stew

Jim

Posts: 1

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PostPosted: January 7, 2006 9:03 AM 

Stew, The same thing happened to me. I am the personnel manager of the NJ Symphony and sent out over 775 email to colleagues. Now I am locked out. How did you resolve your issue? ~Jim

Adam

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PostPosted: January 19, 2006 11:05 AM 

Anyone know what's going on with Gmail? I've been having problems getting the site to pull up consistently. Anyone else experiencing this?

Nell

Posts: 1

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PostPosted: February 9, 2006 9:39 PM 

I cannot get to my inbox for a couple of days. That happened immediately after I got an ad, purportedly from GMail/Google, that said a new service in the form of a GMail chat function was available.

This is a reply to Adam's 1/19 post.

Nia Alexander

Posts: 4

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PostPosted: February 16, 2006 2:29 PM 

I can't get in! Do you have a custoerm service number for ?'s ?????

HELP!!!!!

Nia Alexander

Posts: 4

Reply: 23



PostPosted: February 16, 2006 2:30 PM 

I can't get in! Do you have a customer service number for ?'s ?????

HELP!!!!!

Nia Alexander

Posts: 4

Reply: 24



PostPosted: February 16, 2006 2:30 PM 

I can't get in! Do you have a customer service number for ?'s
HELP

Nia Alexander

Posts: 4

Reply: 25



PostPosted: February 16, 2006 2:31 PM 

I can't get in! Do you have a customer service number for ?'s
HELP

Zay

Posts: no

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PostPosted: February 20, 2006 8:07 AM 

Help! My gmail account won't let me in! It keeps loading and reloading and but won't ever let me see my email. This problem just decided to occur. Anyone know what's wrong?

Zay

Posts: no

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PostPosted: February 20, 2006 8:08 AM 

Help! My gmail account won't let me in! It keeps loading and reloading and but won't ever let me see my email. This problem just decided to occur. Anyone know what's wrong?

Laurie

Posts: 1

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PostPosted: March 8, 2006 1:45 PM 

Is there a customer service #? If I convert over I need to make sure this works! THx. Laurie

Rodney

Posts: 1

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PostPosted: May 8, 2006 7:38 PM 

Horrible Service.... ALL I CAN SAY..

Someone broke into my gmail account and you either have an alternate email address or u are screwd. In other words if someone breaks into your account the gmail team will not only not respond to your crys for help, but you will get an automatic response in ur email and that is all. Its like they dont care or the emails you send them just dont go anywhere. Get this, You have to wait five days of the account being inactive in order to answer your secret question to get into your account. If someone has acess to your account and keep logging in, you can kiss your account goodbuy, because google customer service just doesnt care.

HORRIBLE EMAIL SERVICE....

GO WITH HOTMAIL

PL-Arrain

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PostPosted: May 12, 2006 5:18 PM 

I think the "innocent" spammers, NJ Symphony and the band guy, another nincompoof, stove up the flow on the servers, thus jamming its grooves. See January. It was funny.

sazzja

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PostPosted: May 17, 2006 10:29 PM 

why can't I get my e-mails???? I can log on by my e-mails are gone. Where are they?? Anyone know???/

Helmut Tejada

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PostPosted: May 21, 2006 4:22 PM 

Does anyone know if its possible to change one's email address (username) without loosing the account. Just changing the username, everything else remains the same.


Thanks

nguyet

Posts: xxx

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PostPosted: November 9, 2006 12:49 PM 

hi do you have a phone number i can contact directly? i lost a gmail mail by accidently pressing REPORT SPAM and now i can't get it back. the email i lost came from www.livexchange.com its very important to me. please help me get that email back as soon as possible. thanks. you can call me also at 519-590-3730.

Samantha

Posts: xxx

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PostPosted: March 1, 2007 1:43 PM 

Numerous issues with oops...767 coming up and haven't been able to access my email for hours. Not the only time this has happened. No customer service #? Anyone know who I call or what I should do?

Donna

Posts: xxx

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PostPosted: April 21, 2007 4:44 PM 

Help! Someone hacked into my gmail account. My password was changed. How can I find out who this was? And how could they do it? can I trace it somehow?? Thanks so much. Please respond, anybody who knows!

JimT

Posts: xxx

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PostPosted: April 30, 2007 12:39 PM 

Hey All!
I just outtatheblue started getting mailing erros from an account as myname@outlook.com as not being recognized. Of course not, as I never registered it, and don't even know how. I think it started when I downloaded google toolbar, but regardless, every time I send or receive mail, it acts as if ZI sent it from MyName@Outlook.com, or TRIED TO RECEIVE it from MyName@Outlook.com
Any Suggestions?


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