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Fabio Salvadori







PostPosted: June 2, 2005 7:26 PM 

Importance: High

While giving more clues about the latest Google 'Bourbon' update, GoogleGuy has also talked about a few important things that should be done or not done, when optimizing your website for Google (but not only for Google).

I've been aching for a long time to mention somewhere official that sites shouldn't use '&id=' as a parameter if they want maximal Googlebot crawlage, for example. So many sites use '&id=' with session IDs that Googlebot usually avoids urls with that parameter
And then

I've never heard the suggestion that Google would penalize for iframes before reading it in the thread. Plenty of legit sites use iframes, so it wouldn't make sense to penalize for it. Powdork gave the right response in message 337 of the first Bourbon thread. Now I can easily believe that some search engine spiders would have trouble with iframes just like some spiders have trouble with frames. But I wouldn't expect iframes to cause any penalties.
And finally

My rule of thumb is to pick a root page and be as consistent as possible. I lean toward choosing http://www.yourdomain.com/ but that's just me; http://yourdomain.com/ would work as well. Then I recommend that you make things as simple as possible for spiders. I recommend absolute links instead of relative links, because there's less chance for a spider (not just Google, but any spider) to get confused. In the same fashion, I would try to be consistent on your internal linking. Once you've picked a root page and decided on www vs. non-www, make sure that all your links follow the same convention and point to the root page that you picked. Also, I would use a 301 redirect or rewrite so that your root page doesn't appear twice. For example, if you select http://www.yourdomain.com/ as your root page, then if a spider tries to fetch http://yourdomain.com/ (without the www), your web server should do a permanent (301) redirect to your root page at http://www.yourdomain.com/

So the high-order bits to bear in mind are
- make it as easy as possible for search engines and spiders; save calculation by giving absolute instead of relative links.
- be consistent. Make a decision on www vs. non-www and follow the same convention consistently for all the links on your site. Use permanent redirects to keep spiders fetching the correct page.

Given that GoogleGuy is quite talkative, in this period, we should probably expect more revelations soon.

Norm

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PostPosted: June 20, 2005 12:27 PM 

Does a site get penalized by the googlebot if the root url contains a tracking code?
Example: http://www.yourdomain.com/?cp=b0001
Thanks

Anthony Graddy

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PostPosted: July 7, 2005 4:51 PM 

I would think that it would be okay since googleguy said specifically not to use the '&id=' as a parameter. He did not mention other parameters so I would think that a tracking code using cp should be fine, just make sure that you do not use '&id='.

If you read his comment he said that so many sites use '&id=' to refer to a session ID (session IDs are what allow you to log into an account) so they do not read URLs designed for that kind of information.

shubhojeet

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PostPosted: July 23, 2005 2:22 PM 

want an invite u gotta mail me!!!!!

Nuro

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PostPosted: September 8, 2005 10:50 AM 

re the >I've been aching for a long time to
> mention somewhere official that sites
> shouldn't use '&id=' as a parameter if
> they want maximal Googlebot crawlage, for
> example. So many sites use '&id=' with
> session IDs that Googlebot usually
> avoids urls with that parameter

This cant be true shurly a lot of sites using database with use "ID" as the id field for tables in the database

So a lot of sites will have loads of query strings with id in them.

BTW it is considerd good practice to do this and to use ID as the PK in all tables.

Doesn't google have any real database gurus there or do they think tht mysql is state of the art ;-)

Des

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PostPosted: January 13, 2006 9:17 PM 

In relation to redirecting from domain.com to www.domain.com.

Is it equally important to do the same with all pages? IE domain.com/whatever.htm to www.domain.com/whatever.htm

Is so, can anyone give me the code to write to .htacess to redirect all pages

Thanks

Des

Des

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PostPosted: January 13, 2006 9:19 PM 

In relation to redirecting from domain.com to www.domain.com.

Is it equally important to do the same with all pages? IE domain.com/whatever.htm to www.domain.com/whatever.htm

Is so, can anyone give me the code to write to .htacess to redirect all pages

Thanks

Des

Des

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PostPosted: January 13, 2006 9:20 PM 

In relation to redirecting from domain.com to www.domain.com.

Is it equally important to do the same with all pages? IE domain.com/whatever.htm to www.domain.com/whatever.htm

Is so, can anyone give me the code to write to .htacess to redirect all pages

Thanks

Des

Marcel

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PostPosted: February 22, 2006 2:56 PM 

Some of my sites have thousands of &id= pages being indexed by google without any problems. It has never failed to do so. Some pages even had &id=1&sid=2&bid=3....etc, no problem at all.

Perhaps it is true google would in fact recognize a session id but &id=3878 doesnt look like a session id at all now does it?

Marcel

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PostPosted: February 22, 2006 2:57 PM 

Some of my sites have thousands of &id= pages being indexed by google without any problems. It has never failed to do so. Some pages even had &id=1&sid=2&bid=3....etc, no problem at all.

Perhaps it is true google would in fact recognize a session id but &id=3878 doesnt look like a session id at all now does it?

ali

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PostPosted: July 12, 2006 11:32 AM 

hi

gel

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PostPosted: August 3, 2006 4:36 PM 

not to use the '&id=' as a parameter

echolu

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PostPosted: August 13, 2006 12:44 PM 

thanks for your all info.
i am confused for a question, want to get your help. thank you in advance.
i am confused for backlinks and inbound links, i don't know if backlinks will include internal links or not? i thought it will not, but i see backlink through google tool and found it included internal links, such as we type "link:www.yahoo.com" we can see the result include some yahoo pages, i am crazy now, and some guys said inbound link = backlink, but i see the explain about inbound link: "Links pointing to a website. When a user arrives at a website from another site, that link is called an Inbound Link.
"
you can see that it said another site not another pages, it is different, so i understand inbounk link will not include internal links. what do u think? really need your help. thank you very much, i am appreciated!

fred

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PostPosted: August 13, 2006 5:45 PM 

In relation to redirecting from domain.com to www.domain.com.

den

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PostPosted: August 31, 2006 4:35 AM 

Some of my sites have thousands of &id= pages being indexed by google without any problems.

akudewe

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PostPosted: November 24, 2006 10:05 PM 

Some of my site with @id= page have indexed by google. But why if i check link:mysite.com at yahoo and google, i get differenet result.. Google like so expensive to me.

Hagane

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PostPosted: February 2, 2007 12:05 PM 

My site use a parameter 'id', for example 'mydomain.com?id=aaa', but listed at the top by some keywords.

cash

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PostPosted: March 22, 2007 2:46 PM 

take a look position of nekretnine-hrvatska.com.hr

http://www.google.hr/search?hl=hr&q=Stan+Zagreb++Brune+Bu%C5%A1i%C4%87a&btnG=Tra%C5%BEi&meta=

eyje? http://www.eyje.com

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PostPosted: April 19, 2007 6:13 PM 

similar problem cause from php sessions.

SEO company

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PostPosted: April 27, 2007 10:54 AM 

Trying to find out what you should do or shouldn't do is a never ending quest.
Google will always make updates and change its algorithm anyway.
It's sometimes really hard and time consuming to find out what's going wrong in a website.

Looking for professional seo services, go to White Hat Media's website.

eyje? http://www.eyje.com

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PostPosted: April 27, 2007 11:17 AM 

We like Google Guy!

q.tarantula, moderator at eyje.com



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PostPosted: April 27, 2007 2:15 PM 

سكس عربي

eyje? http://www.eyje.com

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PostPosted: April 27, 2007 5:47 PM 

Google is the boss of the Web

quentin tarantula
moderator at eyje.com

Jocuri

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PostPosted: May 4, 2007 10:14 AM 

How many iframes can we use on first page without beeing penalized by google, is there a procent or a number?

eyje? http://www.eyje.com

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PostPosted: May 4, 2007 5:54 PM 

http://www.eyje.com


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