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PostPosted: August 7, 2003 5:08 PM 

Importance: Low

GoogleGuy thanks a member for a spam report.

GoogleGuy Says: [Link to quote]

Hi Seek, got the spam report--thanks! :) I'll read through it tonight..


steve

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PostPosted: September 11, 2003 12:18 AM 

www.thewebbrains.com has used following hidden text and much more then this in his home page and ranking top in google search engine

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Also see doorway pages from this website on each city which are ranking in top 10

One URL Which i have found in results is as by typing following "Pune Web Hosting" in google with following search string:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=pune+web+hosting

I found this url at number three in google:-
http://www.thewebbrains.com/website-hosting-designing-registration/pune-hosting-designing.htm

Now in this page nothing on frontend and at hidden text in source of page you will find a lot of text with H1 Class

There are 1000's of pages like this which are ranking in google

Hope to comment

Amit justice

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PostPosted: September 27, 2003 2:32 AM 

hi google guy....

i myself was keeping an regular eye on some of the sites like these who were using spammy tecniques to rank high... i noticed few more sites using spam like www.skywebindia.com... using spam..hidden text in pages to rank high with help of css coding..
also check http://www.aiol.com ..they have invisible text at bottom of homepage... i have list of hundreds of sites who are using the same types of techniques... i donno when these people will leave such activites..

and one more thing i just founded that thewebbrains.com has removed all spam from their site..i have checked their whole site..now i was not able to find any spam or hidden pages on their site.. did u talked to them abt this spam??
i think they are also beoming good guys now..

i think other ppl should also do the same and remove spam.. if u showed correct path to thewebbrains than i think u will help others too !!

And keep up the good work !!

-Amit

Mark Carey

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PostPosted: September 27, 2003 2:49 PM 

Hi Amit, I am not GoogleGuy and I am not sure if he reads messages here. It could to hear that the site mentioned by steve (thewebbrains) had removed their hidden text. Perhaps steve's post brought some attention to the issue.

Amit, if you want to start a new thread here to post your list of hundreds of sites, feel free to do so. Click here to post a message in the forum.

Avani

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PostPosted: October 3, 2003 9:14 AM 

Hello Friends,
You can report this on this URL. If more people submit this than this will effective, But it has to be Genune.
http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html

Gumball Machines

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PostPosted: October 12, 2003 3:50 PM 

I would like to point out that the search on google for "gum ball machine" shows a lot of hidden text pages which are ranking top 10 3 and 4 in this case. Is google going to be doing anything to catch those ???

S Kanjilal

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PostPosted: November 1, 2003 12:25 AM 

Hi Friends,
Really the web has brains..."thewebbrain" ranking top of the googly search has shaken all, we the simple website owners can'not generate such texts and for this we are the sufferers..pl. googly...see to it and do justice.

Seth

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PostPosted: November 6, 2003 3:12 PM 

Google Spam

I have reported this linking technique for months without Google taking any action. I hope they straighten this out before their IPO.

This looks alot more straightforward than what the Indian guys are doing.

Check it out.

You can try these tactics, they seem to be working very well- although I don't advise it. I suspect someone will hear me eventually.

The technique is transparent and simple. Certain web sites have partnered with a web site located at: http://www.nationjob.com/ which posts thousands of job listings.

At the bottom of every job posting they have links to the lawyer, travel or drug (or other
web sites). The result is that each web site gets thousands of links, boosting its search position in Google by artificially increasing its link popularity and page rank. Neat , eh? But not very creative.

As I mentioned, I have reported this many times online, but the number of links keeps growing each month!!! I suspect they will have 10,000 to each site before long.

On http://www.nationjob.com/ there are links to:

link:www.counselseek.com has 1,040 links

link:www.personal-injury.com has 3,820 links

link:www.mesothelioma-resources.com has 3,580 links

link:www.baycol-rhabdomyolysis.com/ has 3,650 links

link:www.cruisecompete.com has 2,300 links

There are many more ideas from this "SEO", but you get the idea.

Mark Carey

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PostPosted: November 6, 2003 3:20 PM 

Seth, this is just advertising. I think it is unlikely that Google will ever treat this as a penalty. Many sites sell banner, text, and link advertising, often with the same ad on every page of a site.

Google may, however, discount the amount of PageRank transferred if a page has many links from the same domain. In fact Google may already be doing this. It is likely that 1000 links from the same domain is less valuable that 1000 links from 1000 different domains, all else equal.

Al

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PostPosted: November 11, 2003 2:33 AM 

Have a look at the top 10 results for [city name] hotels, one of the most active term sets on the web. In Paris Nota Bene almost dominate the first page with internal linking, doorway pages and hidden text. Most othewr European cities are covered by them.

Go to Sydney and you will see the same abuses, different companies.

Go to around 180 cities worldwide and the progation by database technology is replicating this more and more, plus using other popular terms.

my biggest concern is that the "spam reports" are not being acted upon by Google.

What's your views ?

Seth

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PostPosted: November 11, 2003 9:14 PM 

Hi Mark-

10,000+ links to five sites created at the bottom of each job post is just advertising?

I respectfully disagree. Vigorously.

The sites bear no relationship to one another and it is acutely obvious no one looking for a job is going to be needing an ad for legal services or a cruise. The intent here is to create links to boost the popularity and placement of the linked sites in Google. (Very sucessfully so far I might add)

The practice is called link stuffing, the site providing the links- a link farm. Defined: A link farm consists of sites linking to other sites for the sole purpose of increasing their link popularity score.

Google admonishes against creating "artifical links. " I assume a reference to this practice, and warns of penailties and banishment.

Inktomi is more explicit saying sites will be banned for "excessively cross-linking sites to inflate a site's apparent popularity."

To state the obvious the notion of ranking a site based on popularity was that the site would natuarally aquire links from other relevant sites- not acquire 3,000 links in two months by being linked at the bottom of each page from a very large job database. This is egregious spam.


Carl Mangold

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PostPosted: November 13, 2003 4:51 AM 

I totally agree with Seth: it's spamming, it's link farming. Just look at the differences in linking job advertisers (via a clickthrough.cgi redirect) and the sponsored links (directly).

Nikhil

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PostPosted: November 18, 2003 11:29 AM 

Hi guys i am the webmaster of Skywebindia.com and read about Amit's post. I had been trying for over 2 years to get ranked well on searchengines. Even after upteen complaints to google about the CSS spammers found them continuining to rank higher...
There are some companies with over 40 links in dmoz but for me it is still impossible after 1 year to just get one..
I first tried this technique to see if its working... and it unfortunately does work quite well and got a threatening email immediately after google dance from thewebbrain guy...

As far as my ranking is concerned the site is not on top of most important keywords i wanted and site is specifically for website hosting services in india (we actually have 5 offices spread across india) and ranked ok for that part. So its not stepping on foot of any one in US or USA like other spamming indian sites

mark

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PostPosted: November 19, 2003 12:06 AM 

This website www.surfschoolcamp.com is spamming its way to the top of google.


I typed in as a search term "florida surf schools" and this site www.surfschoolcamp.com/surf_school_v.html came up #1 . Then I clicked on "More results from www.surfschoolcamp.com" and this site ahs a TON of pages created exclusivly to spam google (here is the actual google qeury: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=+site:www.surfschoolcamp.com+florida+surf+schools ).

Most surf sites play honest. This one obviously doesn't . What is the protocal in dealing with a site like this?

piyush

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PostPosted: November 20, 2003 3:08 AM 

other sites spamming search engines by hiding
a lot of text on pages through h1 tags..

U all are requested to rpeort about this to google at http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html

Culprit sites:
http://www.nihacom.com/
http://www.palcomonline.com/web-hosting-india.htm
http://www.brainpulse.com/
http://www.web-hosting-india.com/
http://www.skywebindia.com

web hosting india.com Site

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PostPosted: December 3, 2003 10:11 PM 

The site is now clean. The experiments were successful and we have rolled back the changes.

amit

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PostPosted: January 1, 2004 12:11 PM 

u say u have removed spam..but i still saw alot of hidden text on your website http://web-hosting-india.com/...

beware u will be banned very soon..

Shankar

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PostPosted: January 5, 2004 6:15 AM 

Hi,
In my opinion it is pretty hard for google to remove entries from its distributed database manually. Remember google is an automatic engine, so the best google can do is to optimize its search algorithm from feedback which is not an overnight affair. Also, then, the amount of text in Meta Tags, H1 etc is debatable as to where exactly is the limit. Companies are fighting for top positions on search engines and resorting to any measures so the exclusions cannot be pin pointed on a manual basis. Comments?

Been There

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PostPosted: January 5, 2004 5:49 PM 

Shankar,
I'm sorry but you are wrong. Google engineers can simply "delist" the entire domain. Poof. Gone. Domain worthless (from the standpoint of Google traffic - which is what, 70% of all searches now - AOL, Yahoo, etc. etc.).

All pages that were previously indexed will still be in the database and may even show up in the "total results" in the upper right blue bar if you do the advanced "All In URL" search, but all the pages will stop showing in the regular "results."

They can even remove particular host names for example: delisting "blahblah.blah.com" but leaving "www.blah.com." This must be more difficult, but I HAVE seen it.

FYI, they also will NEVER speak to you directly (email or otherwise). It's all become an issue in my opinion. When they were 45% of all searches it was one thing to delist a site. At 70% it CAN BE "restraint of trade," and something Google's lawyers better be thinking about before their upcoming IPO.

Food for thought...

Ted

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PostPosted: August 3, 2004 11:58 AM 

People, check out www.mynetrecord.com and www.yourdiagnosis.com. Worst spamming ever! Please re[port them to google. :blush:

Ted

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PostPosted: August 3, 2004 11:59 AM 

People, check out www.mynetrecord.com and www.yourdiagnosis.com. Worst spamming ever! Please re[port them to google. :blush:

Ashish

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PostPosted: November 10, 2004 1:51 AM 

I actually tried both www.yourdiagnosis.com and www.mynetrecord.com. I have used www.yourdiagnosis.com couple of times and have never been spammed. they do email a newsletter once a month buts it really fun to read

web guy

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PostPosted: April 13, 2005 1:41 AM 

May I know what kind of spam work is done in www.mynetrecord.com

Webmaster

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PostPosted: August 28, 2005 10:27 AM 

YourDiagnosis.com does not send SPAM. We have a regular newsletter that goes out to people who have opted in for it.

Russ

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PostPosted: November 15, 2005 12:32 PM 

Is this hidden text considered SPAM? I ask this as I was searching for Betfair and ended up there:

http://www.24hourtrading.co.uk/

Deepak

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PostPosted: November 23, 2005 7:15 PM 

Hidden text cannot be considered as spam, google is too intelligent to figure out. In any case google does a ranking based on its proprietary algorithm. I don't think there is anything called "Spamming Search Engine" its your website, do what you like. Be ready to pay the price if google or any other search engine manually delists your website. Its better to avoid situations where you duplicate content which can be detected by search engine spiders...however putting content legitamately in too specific a case to be handled automatically by them

web promotion india

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PostPosted: December 7, 2005 12:22 PM 

Dear sir

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http://www.thewebgame.info/resource/website-designing-services2.html

so plz submit our site to ur site and information is given below

The:web promotion india

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PostPosted: December 7, 2005 12:23 PM 

Dear sir

We will provide you reciprocal link on the following page

http://www.thewebgame.info/resource/website-designing-services2.html

so plz submit our site to ur site and information is given below

The:web promotion india

url:-http://www.brainpulse.com/search_engine_ promotion_india/website-promotion-india.php

description:-Brainpulse provides excellent search engine web promotion india, website promotion india, search engine promotion india, top 10 ranking in major search engine, leading website promotion company, cheap website promotion in search engines, website promotion delhi. :roll:

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PostPosted: December 7, 2005 12:24 PM 

Dear sir

We will provide you reciprocal link on the following page

http://www.thewebgame.info/resource/website-designing-services2.html

so plz submit our site to ur site and information is given below

The:web promotion india

url:-http://www.brainpulse.com/search_engine_ promotion_india/website-promotion-india.php

description:-Brainpulse provides excellent search engine web promotion india, website promotion india, search engine promotion india, top 10 ranking in major search engine, leading website promotion company, cheap website promotion in search engines, website promotion delhi. :roll:

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PostPosted: December 7, 2005 12:28 PM 

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PostPosted: May 2, 2006 11:38 AM 

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Robert

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PostPosted: June 19, 2006 7:26 AM 

Dear Sir,

I comment to your line written brainpulse is in top ten ranking in major search engine on specified keywords but i want to know you that your company structure, location, and inner looks is too bad and i think that the search engine ranked your site in top 900-1000 position on mentioned keywords.

thanks


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