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Mark







PostPosted: August 12, 2003 10:13 PM 

Via Doc Searls, I learned about Earth Station 5, a new P2P application and network. In general, like the approach, though the UI needs work (or perhaps just a cleaner skin). One of the interesting things about ES5 is that the search options go beyond typical file-sharing options. For example, you can use ES5 to find people. At first, this made me think of GlobeAlive - a search engine that returns live people - but I then realized ES5's person search is intended as a dating application. Still, the concept of a peer-to-peer based search engine that let's you find other people is intriguing. How long before a P2P-based social networking app is launched? Another interesting aspect is the built-in web server that makes it ultra-easy to run your own web server, even for web novices. Just drag files to the "web" folder, and they are instantly published to the web. There is even a (default) setting that automatically creates an index.html file with a listing of all the files in the web folder. And if your broadband ISP doesn't like you sharing files or running web servers, ES5 lets to use whatever port(s) you want, making it very difficult for ISPs to detect. Earth Station 5 has a long way to go to becoming the next Kazaa, but it seems like they are moving in the right direction.
Mark Carey







PostPosted: September 15, 2003 10:23 PM 

By the way, the Earth Station 5 web site can be found at http://www.earthstation5.com.

Jammer







PostPosted: October 4, 2003 5:21 PM 

I discovered ES5 last June 2003. I was a Kazaa Lite fan, but crackdown by the R.I.A.A made me rather paranoid. ES5 allows people to use proxies that are posted on the ES5 news site to stealth their I.P. address! Security is all that matters to most of us ES5 fanboys.

(ES5 fanboy and PROUD of IT!)

randumbnuts







PostPosted: October 4, 2003 5:53 PM 

i have seen the error of my ways esv rules

Mark Carey







PostPosted: October 6, 2003 9:10 AM 

Thanks to Sharepro for submitting the following link. The author of the message exposes a vulnerability in ES5 and expresses the opinion that it is a deliberate attempt to insert malicious code:

http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2003-October/011339.html

In response to this message, the lead developer of ES5 says that the code in question part of a remote upgrading process that would automatically upgrade the software to newer versions. He also says the code has now been removed from the most recent version, available for download now. He message can be read in full at http://forums2.es5.com/index.php?act=ST&f=50&t=5718 (you may need to register in the forum to see the message).

don







PostPosted: October 20, 2003 2:15 AM 

my chat icon is gone, where do i find video chat? pleez help

BP







PostPosted: October 31, 2003 8:40 PM 

Do your research, people--Earth Station 5 has a backdoor in it, that lets any remote user who sends a particular packet delete any file on your harddrive.

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/03/134248&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=172&tid=95

Poly4life







PostPosted: December 2, 2003 11:07 PM 

Of course a backdoor exists. I don't know too much about security vs. hacking, but couldn't you just set up your own proxy from a remote server? (very carefully so anyone who track that IP won't trace it back to you).

Also, if you have an anti-trojan like protection system and/or a complete firewall like ZA, wouldn't ZA warn you that someone is trying to ping you?

If there are any programmers listening out there, maybe there is a way you can patch the program. As you may or may not know, some OS's have the ability to set up soft and hard interrupts through the the timer's driver. In fact, if you have second hardware clock (preferably low-frequency), it makes things easier. Soft timers won't go off if things like system calls and page faults do not occur, making it vulnerable at any given instantaneous moment of time.

Anyway, I think the following either has to be done as a patch on the program or the clock driver, but you can have the hardware clock interrupt at a programmed time interval, say, 1 msec. At this point, one can program the driver to send a message to the OS, who can send the message through ES5 (or even a separate app. written for this purpose), and warn you that someone is sending you an incoming packet.

Like I said, I'm not too knowledgable on this subject. I'm just throwing it out there to fellow developers who wish to tackle this issue.

longest







PostPosted: December 7, 2003 7:02 PM 

search doghouse...hehe

adsf







PostPosted: February 17, 2004 11:51 AM 

lsafjdasdfsadf









PostPosted: January 16, 2005 6:30 PM 

i can't even download it for some reason

Trevor Yeldud







PostPosted: January 21, 2005 8:32 PM 

Impossible to download earth station 5. Anyone
one on es5 please send an email to them. Did microsoft or download sites get pressure to eliminate es5 download page? Could be.

EarthStationDenied







PostPosted: January 29, 2005 12:56 AM 

It is Jan 22. Earth Station 5 site is not functioning? Can't find download site world wide, yet. Any suggestions?

EarthStationDenied







PostPosted: January 29, 2005 2:07 AM 

I found the Earth Station 5 software file " es5_v1.0.exe " to download @ http://tucows.accesscomm.ca . This is a Canadian site that somehow is not blocked from offering this download. As you may notice, all other sites , including es5.com have been shut down! I hope this is just an inocent problem and not some doomed corporate/government attempt at limiting untraceable file sharing and communication.

bat125







PostPosted: February 8, 2005 9:45 AM 

thanks..Canada still works as of 2-9-05..Can't wait to try this baby out

Elker







PostPosted: February 8, 2005 1:25 PM 

The Canadian link works perfectly. Earth Station's link doesn't work and I have been looking for someplace to download it. Thanks a million for posting it!

cormac







PostPosted: February 8, 2005 4:49 PM 

Still unable to download even from canadian site, ?any suggestions. ck

Budha







PostPosted: February 13, 2005 9:05 AM 

Tucows Canada still working. 13/2/2005
Thanks a lot for posting the tip.

P2P239







PostPosted: February 17, 2005 8:57 PM 

Canadian Site still works as of 2/17/05 thanks for posting!!!!!

artur







PostPosted: February 26, 2005 8:09 AM 

You can download Earth Station software from a Polish site http://www.zoom.idg.pl/ftp/pc_1719/Earth%20Station%20Five%201.0.html

Click on the button to the right, and then a button saying BASIC FTP. The download is slow, but always successful! LONG LIVE THE POLES!

FishBone







PostPosted: March 5, 2005 10:44 PM 

I used limewire and downloaded the lates ES5 of the Gnutella network. Go ahead, you will find it there.

Matt







PostPosted: March 20, 2005 4:39 PM 

Earth station is available at the following URL:
"http://www.tucows.com/preview/317146.html"

Haven't tried it yet bt I would suggest that you fully update ur firewall software.

bsskibum







PostPosted: March 31, 2005 7:07 PM 

yep the polish are great (32kb/s DL speed)
heres a direct link to the canadain DL link
http://tucows.accesscomm.ca/preview/317146.html

Adriano( Myslowice) Poland







PostPosted: April 15, 2005 2:28 PM 

why i was go to www.earthstation.com I have seen a error server : please send me this perfect aplication at adrianoz@buziaczek.pl or Gadu-Gadu at number 8751682 please :P :D

chris







PostPosted: June 25, 2005 4:56 AM 

hey can you still watch movie's on es5?.... i hav'nt look into es5 in a lont time...









PostPosted: September 16, 2005 7:33 PM 

i downloaded es5 from the canadian website. after installing windows said some of the sp2 files were replaced. the program runs, but cannot find any connection.

gnius







PostPosted: October 8, 2005 5:15 AM 

I will be hosting earthstation 5 on "nodezilla" for as long as I live,
just type "esv" or "earthstation5" as I have labled them as such, I will host all versions I have collected the best versions will be annotated as such

hilo







PostPosted: December 3, 2005 5:35 PM 

uh, I can't get nodezilla to install!

Steve







PostPosted: July 16, 2006 4:57 PM 

This is a whole different ES5.

Maybe the reason is that Stephen M Cohen has been in jail since last December or so.

cando







PostPosted: August 19, 2006 9:41 PM 

well? are you going to respond SharePro?


One day soon, I will tell the entire story. The truth is, was, and always will be that ES5 was only out there to provide an alternative solution to anonymous p2p. There was never any bad intentions to delete files or mishaps. Our mission was to provide an anonymous p2p network and application and teach people.

What type of security and anonymity could the owners, makers, and even members of ES5 boast about if they cant even protect their own identities.

Steve Cohen is currently sitting in some Mexican jail for something related to his sex.com days. Personally, I never cared for Mr. Cohen (haha...for those of you who remember, he tried to hijack ER from us!)

As far as I remember, Steve only offered a bunch of old ideas and started a bunch of fights with ZP. At the time, there we're a couple of Steve's and I hated all of them.

Both Steve's dared (by offering 50,000 rewards, etc) to idiots like Random Nut to see if they could break into ES5, and created a lot of problems for the people like myself and Filehoover who we're working our asses off to build the community and promote from beta a nice p2p program. ES5 wasnt released perfect. It had bugs. But we had alot of experience, adrenalin, and enthusiasm to continue the mission. Bad hype got in the way.

Every word that came out of my mouth was manipulated. I once said that I had a couple of BT sites (at the very beginning of Bit Torrent) and was using them for bandwith experiments. That was understood by a bunch of idiots to mean that I was dos attacking BT sites. So again, I found myself wasting time measuring each and every word (in my long ass educational essays that I would write...) before actually posting them.

Most people enjoyed my posts because while some came as a result of the hype and negative talk, the majority stayed because they found that ultimately, our entire community was made up of down to earth people.

We all found ourselves fighting and digging shit up on ZP instead of focusing on the real important things. Funny, but ZP realized that starting shit with us proved very stupid because their site is still owned by the same makers of DRM (digital rights management) and people who make real cash off of spying on peoples network traffic.

But nevertheless, time has proven that none of the people in ES5 had bad intentions. Our "p2p integrity" has been proven by the mere fact that we did many things that other p2p networks and management only dream about. All of the specualtive negative ideas about ES5 proved to be bullshit. When Random Nut created an exploit to erase peoples files, it was actually me who threatened his life (Yeah, I know, I went a little bit too far...). So how the hell people could publicly claim that ES5 was made to erase people's files is beyond me. Truth is, in the backround via Forums PM's, the owners of Slyck, ZP, P2PNET, etc., all knew that to be bullshit and wrote me letters telling me that they knew it was bullshit but promised "revenge". My attitude at the time was simply to tell them to fuck off.

The fact that nobody really knows how the routing was done speaks for itself.

According to the article, ES5 died in Sept 2005, "shortly before Steve's arrest". Hmm... How many people believe that ES5 died less than a year ago? That article at Wiki was written on August 6th 2006, which is several years after ES5's departure. Amazing how people are still digging. But the dates, times, and framework of the article are totally disportional to reality ( God knows that I havent been with ES5 in over 2 years), so I'm not even going to waste time editing the article and providing the real set of events.

For the matter of conversation, there is no physical proof of anything written in that article. But make no mistake, there is also nothing to disprove the article. Facts are generally based on 3rd party evidence. I didnt see any evidence in that article to support any of the theories presented.

Unlike the Washington Post, CNN, etc., who have editors to ensure that every word is REAL and can be PROVEN, you all must know by now that WIKI is nothing more than a community website allowing anybody to edit any definition without any real scrutiny. My theory is that on August 6, 2006, years after ES5's absence in cyberspace, somebody has still got a "hard on" for information. Anything recognized as ANONYMOUS is mistakenly understood as a SCAM.

The fact is, I may be English, American, French, or Italian. Nobody will ever be able to connect myself or the other people who participated with that project because as I've said a million times, true p2p is not about headtrips regarding racial or ethnic backround, sexual orientation, politics or religion. God forbid we limit ES5 to a ISP in Europe or a person named Steve. The reality is that ES5 was a network and community of many people and none of the people who participated can be found today. I am just one of many.

Nobody cares who provides them the music, movies, games, etc. Was ES5 just one big anonymous proxy as reported? The truth is, today, nobody knows (...or cares). Was it in Palestine, Europe, America, or the Far East? Hmm...Good question, but no answer...

Our original objective was eventually realized. We proved that one can be online and remain anonymous. Steve Cohen willingly released his own identity. The others in the group and community continue to remain anonymous.

When Random Nut tried to erase people's files, I did a simple WHOIS for Kazaalite.com and then cross checked the information with a couple of articles written on Cnet.com about a university kid from Scotland who built Kazaa Lite. I printed the information and everybody went apeshit. Amazing how little shits like Random talked so much shit about us being a conspiracy when in fact his own true colors were revealed by his own malicious actions.

At the time that we released ES5, the entire internet had thought that anonymity was increasingly difficult if not impossible. We proved otherwise. More importantly, we tought others. So our objective was reached.

Yes, Filehoover and I did plant false information in different places to send the RIAA, MPAA, newspaper journalists, etc., off in the wrong directions. (I imagine this gives a bunch of groupies now the right to run off and scream "SharePro lied to us...!)

The reality is that I never lied to anybody about things that they needed to know (i.e. Security, P2P, etc). Who I am is simply none of anybody's business just like your home addresses, phone numbers, etc., are none of my business.

P2P is not personal and should never be limited to a guy named SharePro, Filehoover, ES5, etc. Many of you remember when P2P first started. The thought of being able to trade files and meet people without the headtrips of their religious or political backround, geographical location, etc., was a thrill for first time p2pr's. The ability to join for free and get files for free hooked most of us onto the drug called p2p.

Hackers like Random Nut no longer had a job. No longer did people need to HACK to get unauthorized files. In the BBS days, people would hack into systems to get software (not everybody had the money to pay for games, software, etc).

I always figured that anybody who wants to know who I am only wants to know to cause me damage. Why else would anybody care who I am?

We spent a great deal of time not only protecting our identities, but also making sure that your identities we're safe.

The fact that the Washington Post and many other first rate magazines sent journalists around the world into dangerous places to try and get information (and turned up with nothing...) shows you all that the RIAA, MPAA, Investigative Journalists, etc., will go very far and hire the best minds to get information about us. Haha...They all wasted their money. So allow me to be very bold (several years after the fact...) and say that we are very good at what we do because we succeeded in fooling the entire world.

I personally know alot more than I like to talk about regarding the techniques. I can teach network anonymity, but most security deficiencies on networks are not because of computer mistakes, rather because of human error. In short, doing what everybody thinks your going to do and/or being stupid and sharing secret information with the public. Good security depends on private information remaining private. I never liked some of the people at ES5, but I wont sell anybody out. Some of the people at ES5 hated me, but they never sold me out.

The moral is that a good community (public or private) needs to rely on eachother. Assholes like XTR, Bsmuv, Punk, Random Nut and others who erased p2pr's content simply because they didnt like me or our community are bogus freaks who should never have had the privledge of entering into our community.

At any rate, there will come a time that I will talk. I may even release the code of ES5 as open source.

But to answer your question, if I edit Wiki and show evidence via 3rd party non-ES5-affiliated websites that actually track and monitor networking traffic that the article in Wiki contains details that are not true, what do you think would happen?

Answer - The person who wrote the article would continue searching. Personally, I like the idea that makes it look like Steve Cohen was ES5. Steve was an asshole from the get go, so I truly do hope that he's enjoying his once-a-week meal in a Mexican jail. But I wont provide details to help and/or hurt Steve or anybody else regarding ES5.

Even after Punk, XTR, Bsmuv and others fucked with ES5 Forums, I didnt release their IP addresses or any other information I had about them. The came to ES5 as NOBODYS and I helped them create an online persona, gave them mod powers, and instead of fucking with me, they fucked with the community.

If they had my name, they would have gone straight to the RIAA. I know who Punk, Bsmuv, XTR and others are. I know their names, addresses, etc. Again, there was a time that those people we're in good grace with me so they shared the information with me. I even know the company that Bsmuv and his old DJ partner worked for.

Unlike them, I'm not a drama queen nor do I become vendictive. They didnt get what they wanted so they erased p2pr's content. What they never understood in grammer school is that THERE IS NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A "REASON" AND AN EXCUSE. The reality is that they we're angry with me, and instead of dealing with that anger directly with me, they decided to erase other community members thoughts, ideas, pictures, and informative posts and yet today NOBODY CARES WHY THEY DID THAT. ER became alot larger than ES5 forums ever were with zero hype.

Bsmuv Radio is dead. Crapfiles forum is a black hole with zero substance. XTR committed suicide.

So it doesnt matter how much shit people have talked about me, at least nobody can say that I erased p2pr's content and nobody can say that I sold out. All that bullshit about ES5 being some malicious p2p program to erase peoples files was bullshit and everybody always knew that.

It's amazing how many people are full of conspiracy thoughts regarding ES5 yet the same people, and others, eventually show their true colors. As I have always said in the past, ALWAYS ASK YOURSELF WHAT THE AUTHOR OF THIS (OR THAT...) ARTICLE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO P2P.

All you know is that somebody on August 6th edited an article on Wiki regarding ES5. The original article on Wiki has been edited so many times, and most times the different writers contradict eachother while competing to write negative shit about the only fucking p2p network and community who truly provided an anonymous peer 2 peer working enviorment.

Anyway, if the RIAA, MPAA, or author of the various WIKI articles all jumped in the air holding their breathe waiting for me to talk.... to provide more accurate details on ES5...Allow me to say

I HOPE THEY ALL CHOKE!

I hope that answers your questions!

Cheers,
SharePro

cando







PostPosted: August 19, 2006 10:10 PM 

well? are you going to respond SharePro?


One day soon, I will tell the entire story. The truth is, was, and always will be that ES5 was only out there to provide an alternative solution to anonymous p2p. There was never any bad intentions to delete files or mishaps. Our mission was to provide an anonymous p2p network and application and teach people.

What type of security and anonymity could the owners, makers, and even members of ES5 boast about if they cant even protect their own identities.

Steve Cohen is currently sitting in some Mexican jail for something related to his sex.com days. Personally, I never cared for Mr. Cohen (haha...for those of you who remember, he tried to hijack ER from us!)

As far as I remember, Steve only offered a bunch of old ideas and started a bunch of fights with ZP. At the time, there we're a couple of Steve's and I hated all of them.

Both Steve's dared (by offering 50,000 rewards, etc) to idiots like Random Nut to see if they could break into ES5, and created a lot of problems for the people like myself and Filehoover who we're working our asses off to build the community and promote from beta a nice p2p program. ES5 wasnt released perfect. It had bugs. But we had alot of experience, adrenalin, and enthusiasm to continue the mission. Bad hype got in the way.

Every word that came out of my mouth was manipulated. I once said that I had a couple of BT sites (at the very beginning of Bit Torrent) and was using them for bandwith experiments. That was understood by a bunch of idiots to mean that I was dos attacking BT sites. So again, I found myself wasting time measuring each and every word (in my long ass educational essays that I would write...) before actually posting them.

Most people enjoyed my posts because while some came as a result of the hype and negative talk, the majority stayed because they found that ultimately, our entire community was made up of down to earth people.

We all found ourselves fighting and digging shit up on ZP instead of focusing on the real important things. Funny, but ZP realized that starting shit with us proved very stupid because their site is still owned by the same makers of DRM (digital rights management) and people who make real cash off of spying on peoples network traffic.

But nevertheless, time has proven that none of the people in ES5 had bad intentions. Our "p2p integrity" has been proven by the mere fact that we did many things that other p2p networks and management only dream about. All of the specualtive negative ideas about ES5 proved to be bullshit. When Random Nut created an exploit to erase peoples files, it was actually me who threatened his life (Yeah, I know, I went a little bit too far...). So how the hell people could publicly claim that ES5 was made to erase people's files is beyond me. Truth is, in the backround via Forums PM's, the owners of Slyck, ZP, P2PNET, etc., all knew that to be bullshit and wrote me letters telling me that they knew it was bullshit but promised "revenge". My attitude at the time was simply to tell them to fuck off.

The fact that nobody really knows how the routing was done speaks for itself.

According to the article, ES5 died in Sept 2005, "shortly before Steve's arrest". Hmm... How many people believe that ES5 died less than a year ago? That article at Wiki was written on August 6th 2006, which is several years after ES5's departure. Amazing how people are still digging. But the dates, times, and framework of the article are totally disportional to reality ( God knows that I havent been with ES5 in over 2 years), so I'm not even going to waste time editing the article and providing the real set of events.

For the matter of conversation, there is no physical proof of anything written in that article. But make no mistake, there is also nothing to disprove the article. Facts are generally based on 3rd party evidence. I didnt see any evidence in that article to support any of the theories presented.

Unlike the Washington Post, CNN, etc., who have editors to ensure that every word is REAL and can be PROVEN, you all must know by now that WIKI is nothing more than a community website allowing anybody to edit any definition without any real scrutiny. My theory is that on August 6, 2006, years after ES5's absence in cyberspace, somebody has still got a "hard on" for information. Anything recognized as ANONYMOUS is mistakenly understood as a SCAM.

The fact is, I may be English, American, French, or Italian. Nobody will ever be able to connect myself or the other people who participated with that project because as I've said a million times, true p2p is not about headtrips regarding racial or ethnic backround, sexual orientation, politics or religion. God forbid we limit ES5 to a ISP in Europe or a person named Steve. The reality is that ES5 was a network and community of many people and none of the people who participated can be found today. I am just one of many.

Nobody cares who provides them the music, movies, games, etc. Was ES5 just one big anonymous proxy as reported? The truth is, today, nobody knows (...or cares). Was it in Palestine, Europe, America, or the Far East? Hmm...Good question, but no answer...

Our original objective was eventually realized. We proved that one can be online and remain anonymous. Steve Cohen willingly released his own identity. The others in the group and community continue to remain anonymous.

When Random Nut tried to erase people's files, I did a simple WHOIS for Kazaalite.com and then cross checked the information with a couple of articles written on Cnet.com about a university kid from Scotland who built Kazaa Lite. I printed the information and everybody went apeshit. Amazing how little shits like Random talked so much shit about us being a conspiracy when in fact his own true colors were revealed by his own malicious actions.

At the time that we released ES5, the entire internet had thought that anonymity was increasingly difficult if not impossible. We proved otherwise. More importantly, we tought others. So our objective was reached.

Yes, Filehoover and I did plant false information in different places to send the RIAA, MPAA, newspaper journalists, etc., off in the wrong directions. (I imagine this gives a bunch of groupies now the right to run off and scream "SharePro lied to us...!)

The reality is that I never lied to anybody about things that they needed to know (i.e. Security, P2P, etc). Who I am is simply none of anybody's business just like your home addresses, phone numbers, etc., are none of my business.

P2P is not personal and should never be limited to a guy named SharePro, Filehoover, ES5, etc. Many of you remember when P2P first started. The thought of being able to trade files and meet people without the headtrips of their religious or political backround, geographical location, etc., was a thrill for first time p2pr's. The ability to join for free and get files for free hooked most of us onto the drug called p2p.

Hackers like Random Nut no longer had a job. No longer did people need to HACK to get unauthorized files. In the BBS days, people would hack into systems to get software (not everybody had the money to pay for games, software, etc).

I always figured that anybody who wants to know who I am only wants to know to cause me damage. Why else would anybody care who I am?

We spent a great deal of time not only protecting our identities, but also making sure that your identities we're safe.

The fact that the Washington Post and many other first rate magazines sent journalists around the world into dangerous places to try and get information (and turned up with nothing...) shows you all that the RIAA, MPAA, Investigative Journalists, etc., will go very far and hire the best minds to get information about us. Haha...They all wasted their money. So allow me to be very bold (several years after the fact...) and say that we are very good at what we do because we succeeded in fooling the entire world.

I personally know alot more than I like to talk about regarding the techniques. I can teach network anonymity, but most security deficiencies on networks are not because of computer mistakes, rather because of human error. In short, doing what everybody thinks your going to do and/or being stupid and sharing secret information with the public. Good security depends on private information remaining private. I never liked some of the people at ES5, but I wont sell anybody out. Some of the people at ES5 hated me, but they never sold me out.

The moral is that a good community (public or private) needs to rely on eachother. Assholes like XTR, Bsmuv, Punk, Random Nut and others who erased p2pr's content simply because they didnt like me or our community are bogus freaks who should never have had the privledge of entering into our community.

At any rate, there will come a time that I will talk. I may even release the code of ES5 as open source.

But to answer your question, if I edit Wiki and show evidence via 3rd party non-ES5-affiliated websites that actually track and monitor networking traffic that the article in Wiki contains details that are not true, what do you think would happen?

Answer - The person who wrote the article would continue searching. Personally, I like the idea that makes it look like Steve Cohen was ES5. Steve was an asshole from the get go, so I truly do hope that he's enjoying his once-a-week meal in a Mexican jail. But I wont provide details to help and/or hurt Steve or anybody else regarding ES5.

Even after Punk, XTR, Bsmuv and others fucked with ES5 Forums, I didnt release their IP addresses or any other information I had about them. The came to ES5 as NOBODYS and I helped them create an online persona, gave them mod powers, and instead of fucking with me, they fucked with the community.

If they had my name, they would have gone straight to the RIAA. I know who Punk, Bsmuv, XTR and others are. I know their names, addresses, etc. Again, there was a time that those people we're in good grace with me so they shared the information with me. I even know the company that Bsmuv and his old DJ partner worked for.

Unlike them, I'm not a drama queen nor do I become vendictive. They didnt get what they wanted so they erased p2pr's content. What they never understood in grammer school is that THERE IS NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A "REASON" AND AN EXCUSE. The reality is that they we're angry with me, and instead of dealing with that anger directly with me, they decided to erase other community members thoughts, ideas, pictures, and informative posts and yet today NOBODY CARES WHY THEY DID THAT. ER became alot larger than ES5 forums ever were with zero hype.

Bsmuv Radio is dead. Crapfiles forum is a black hole with zero substance. XTR committed suicide.

So it doesnt matter how much shit people have talked about me, at least nobody can say that I erased p2pr's content and nobody can say that I sold out. All that bullshit about ES5 being some malicious p2p program to erase peoples files was bullshit and everybody always knew that.

It's amazing how many people are full of conspiracy thoughts regarding ES5 yet the same people, and others, eventually show their true colors. As I have always said in the past, ALWAYS ASK YOURSELF WHAT THE AUTHOR OF THIS (OR THAT...) ARTICLE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO P2P.

All you know is that somebody on August 6th edited an article on Wiki regarding ES5. The original article on Wiki has been edited so many times, and most times the different writers contradict eachother while competing to write negative shit about the only fucking p2p network and community who truly provided an anonymous peer 2 peer working enviorment.

Anyway, if the RIAA, MPAA, or author of the various WIKI articles all jumped in the air holding their breathe waiting for me to talk.... to provide more accurate details on ES5...Allow me to say

I HOPE THEY ALL CHOKE!

I hope that answers your questions!

Cheers,

William







PostPosted: March 22, 2007 9:51 PM 

I cannot connect online with ES5 the connect light is always red

I have even disabled my firewall.

Can anybody help me?

Thanks

BSmuv







PostPosted: April 12, 2007 6:55 PM 

Wow, I can't believe the number of times my name has been slammed on this topic. The truth of the matter from my side of the story is simply this. The section of the forums I deleted was the section that was dedicated to BSmuv (ES5) Radio. I also deleted all the files from the web servers that I had access to that facilitated the operations of BSmuv (ES5) Radio. This was only after the actions of SharePro, Akiemd, Oliver or what ever name he was going by at the time made it clear were his loyalty's laid. There were no harsh feelings on my part, I simply wished to have a clean break from ES5 and not leave anything behind that I had worked on or could be pointed back to me.
As for all the name calling and stuff, well to each his own, but ponder on this a bit, I have every IM chat conversation that ever took place between myself and SharePro.

Laters
-BSmuv


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